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	Comments on: My dad said: “Never take on a business partner.”	</title>
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		By: Brandon		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[While maybe not what David was discussing, be very very careful even talking about entering into business relationships. 

In many states statutes provide for the &quot;presumptive&quot; partnership where even a discussion about entering a business together with someone can make one a &#039;presumptive partner&#039; [if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it&#039;s a duck] and thereby mutually liable for the acts and transaction of your presumptive partners. Talk is not always cheap. 

That said, there is no question that well thought out mutually beneficial business relationships can, and do, provide leverage and competitive advantages. 

My advise, always clearly codify in writing/email all the intentions of all discussion leading up to any potential business relationship. 

Be clear what you are and what you are not!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While maybe not what David was discussing, be very very careful even talking about entering into business relationships. </p>
<p>In many states statutes provide for the &#8220;presumptive&#8221; partnership where even a discussion about entering a business together with someone can make one a &#8216;presumptive partner&#8217; [if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it&#8217;s a duck] and thereby mutually liable for the acts and transaction of your presumptive partners. Talk is not always cheap. </p>
<p>That said, there is no question that well thought out mutually beneficial business relationships can, and do, provide leverage and competitive advantages. </p>
<p>My advise, always clearly codify in writing/email all the intentions of all discussion leading up to any potential business relationship. </p>
<p>Be clear what you are and what you are not!</p>
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		By: Kathy V		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 00:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always recommend people sit down with an excellent experienced &quot;business&quot; minded attorney that can lay out each of the decisions that should be made upfront and put in writing. This works well for the informed and uninformed business person. If one partner refuses to agree to negotiate the terms for an important provision, that pretty much says it all. Too many people like to &quot;save&quot; money by not having a proper partnership agreement because they are in a blissful happy place in the beginning.  That is short-sighted and expensive in the end. btw, I&#039;m not an attorney but I&#039;m glad I know good ones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always recommend people sit down with an excellent experienced &#8220;business&#8221; minded attorney that can lay out each of the decisions that should be made upfront and put in writing. This works well for the informed and uninformed business person. If one partner refuses to agree to negotiate the terms for an important provision, that pretty much says it all. Too many people like to &#8220;save&#8221; money by not having a proper partnership agreement because they are in a blissful happy place in the beginning.  That is short-sighted and expensive in the end. btw, I&#8217;m not an attorney but I&#8217;m glad I know good ones.</p>
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		By: Huckleberry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Huckleberry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I second Dan Hoefflin. I&#039;ll also add, I had a lot of girlfriends before I married my spouse. It was worth the wait.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Dan Hoefflin. I&#8217;ll also add, I had a lot of girlfriends before I married my spouse. It was worth the wait.</p>
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		By: Huckleberry		</title>
		<link>https://berkonomics.com/?p=1885&#038;cpage=1#comment-14576</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the flip side, limited partners/co-founders with the right motivation and direction can give the start-up critical early stage momentum and provide the company with resources that an individual cannot hope to make use of flying solo. Your point is well taken, people&#039;s motivations change, greed sets, things happen that change the level of commitment but look at some of the success stories:
HP
Yahoo!
Twitter
Facebook
MSFT
Oracle
Apple

As an idea guy I know the importance (from a long series of failures) of adding the right people to the mix to support my vision. I guess ultimately a little luck goes a long way too:)

In your example Dave, without that partner, even though it did not work out in the long term for that record company play, it did give you some short term success that, it might argued, setup your long term success.

michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the flip side, limited partners/co-founders with the right motivation and direction can give the start-up critical early stage momentum and provide the company with resources that an individual cannot hope to make use of flying solo. Your point is well taken, people&#8217;s motivations change, greed sets, things happen that change the level of commitment but look at some of the success stories:<br />
HP<br />
Yahoo!<br />
Twitter<br />
Facebook<br />
MSFT<br />
Oracle<br />
Apple</p>
<p>As an idea guy I know the importance (from a long series of failures) of adding the right people to the mix to support my vision. I guess ultimately a little luck goes a long way too:)</p>
<p>In your example Dave, without that partner, even though it did not work out in the long term for that record company play, it did give you some short term success that, it might argued, setup your long term success.</p>
<p>michael</p>
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		By: Eli Elliott		</title>
		<link>https://berkonomics.com/?p=1885&#038;cpage=1#comment-14575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Elliott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Even with a good choice, your chemistry changes over time &quot;for better or for worse&quot;. And the unconscious (and false) assumptions you initially make about your partner may undermine your relationship when reality sets in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even with a good choice, your chemistry changes over time &#8220;for better or for worse&#8221;. And the unconscious (and false) assumptions you initially make about your partner may undermine your relationship when reality sets in.</p>
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		By: David O.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David O.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave,

I&#039;m surprised that you interpreted this situation as evidence of the calamity of bringing on a business partner.

Many businesses cannot survive in today&#039;s entrepreneurial environment without a team. Indeed, most investors, not unlike yourself, will dismiss investment opportunities where the team slide of the investment deck consists of one photo and a single brief bio. 

I interpret your story as proof of the need for communication and written (and signed) clarity in the partnership expectations. As you mentioned, there wasn&#039;t a partnership agreement. But a lack of an agreement doesn&#039;t diminish the value of a business partnership any more than a receipt-less transaction at a swap meet devalues the ad hoc marketplace itself or the goods and services offered at such events.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that you interpreted this situation as evidence of the calamity of bringing on a business partner.</p>
<p>Many businesses cannot survive in today&#8217;s entrepreneurial environment without a team. Indeed, most investors, not unlike yourself, will dismiss investment opportunities where the team slide of the investment deck consists of one photo and a single brief bio. </p>
<p>I interpret your story as proof of the need for communication and written (and signed) clarity in the partnership expectations. As you mentioned, there wasn&#8217;t a partnership agreement. But a lack of an agreement doesn&#8217;t diminish the value of a business partnership any more than a receipt-less transaction at a swap meet devalues the ad hoc marketplace itself or the goods and services offered at such events.</p>
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		By: Michael Farmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Farmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Dan&#039;s comment.  One of the leading causes of company break-ups, joint venture failures, alliance failures, disappointments with distributors, and even marriage is a fundamental lack of a formal selection process and proven criteria.  Elements of compatibility, commitment, discipline, willingness, skills, knowledge and desire are all critical.

A &quot;company&quot; consists of several people who exhibit these shared qualities and who are linked together through shared values, agreement and contract.

One of the major failings of entrepreneurs is their inability to partner and to know how to select a partner - being it a consultant, an advisor, board member, service provider, business partner or down-line distributor.

The unfortunate experience that Dave shares is one that occurs too often, and stands in the way greater growth.  The wrong choice leaves such a bad taste that many are unable to move forward.  To echo Dan &quot;the right choice is a continuous blessing, the wrong choice, a curse&quot;. 

BTW - full discloser: &quot;partner selection&quot; is one of our core strengths, and our system has been successfully implemented by many of the F500.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dan&#8217;s comment.  One of the leading causes of company break-ups, joint venture failures, alliance failures, disappointments with distributors, and even marriage is a fundamental lack of a formal selection process and proven criteria.  Elements of compatibility, commitment, discipline, willingness, skills, knowledge and desire are all critical.</p>
<p>A &#8220;company&#8221; consists of several people who exhibit these shared qualities and who are linked together through shared values, agreement and contract.</p>
<p>One of the major failings of entrepreneurs is their inability to partner and to know how to select a partner &#8211; being it a consultant, an advisor, board member, service provider, business partner or down-line distributor.</p>
<p>The unfortunate experience that Dave shares is one that occurs too often, and stands in the way greater growth.  The wrong choice leaves such a bad taste that many are unable to move forward.  To echo Dan &#8220;the right choice is a continuous blessing, the wrong choice, a curse&#8221;. </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; full discloser: &#8220;partner selection&#8221; is one of our core strengths, and our system has been successfully implemented by many of the F500.</p>
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		By: Tony Rose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 18:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having been a partner or others for over 40 years I believe myself an authority on the subject.  David is correct, the energies of partners ebb and flow at different times.  This can be the a strong point as well as a weakness of any partnership.  The safeguard to any business partnership is to twofold in my mind.  Create an environment of complete truthfulness (tactfully if possible).  Finally, attempt to have a true servant spirit as it relates to your other partners.  At times that servant spirit might be taken advantage of but true partners can last a long time on the food of truth and trust.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been a partner or others for over 40 years I believe myself an authority on the subject.  David is correct, the energies of partners ebb and flow at different times.  This can be the a strong point as well as a weakness of any partnership.  The safeguard to any business partnership is to twofold in my mind.  Create an environment of complete truthfulness (tactfully if possible).  Finally, attempt to have a true servant spirit as it relates to your other partners.  At times that servant spirit might be taken advantage of but true partners can last a long time on the food of truth and trust.</p>
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		By: Dan Hoefflin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Hoefflin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Choosing a good partner is somewhat like choosing a good spouse. Take your time, think it through, don&#039;t simply act out of emotion, compatibility is key.  The right choice is a continuous blessing. The wrong choice is a curse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Choosing a good partner is somewhat like choosing a good spouse. Take your time, think it through, don&#8217;t simply act out of emotion, compatibility is key.  The right choice is a continuous blessing. The wrong choice is a curse.</p>
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